In my education psychosis is used clinically, as you have described , spotlighting a break from reality. Schizophrenia is the clsssic example used: hearing and listening to voices to cause harm; hallucinations that are an alternate reality. And yet I understand when it’s used as a reference to a group of people who ignore the “reality”. The Capitol police really were attacked. The legislators and their staff were in danger. It’s all documented and viewed innumerable times. Somehow a pathologic narcissist is able to impose a psychosis upon his followers, which is what I think Bandy X is referring to and what Sam Ray is alluding towards. I dislike these followers but I also feel very sorry for them as I’m sure most of their daily lives are less than constructive. Today, while I was waiting on line for 3 vaccine shots, a man behind couldn’t help himself from saying several times , “ this is bullshit” or “can you believe this” bec the line had 4 people. He was not dressed in a suit as if he left a demanding job to get a Rx but rather in shorts and a t-shirt and was readily a member of the sub population of borderline morbidly obese. This was more re than entitlement. It was an opportunity, for him, to express anger and exhibit poor restraint in his frustration to wait 10 min ( which is what it was as I had to wait off to side for another 10 min as my vaccines were readied). He was the face of narcissism and at the same time a member of the “psychotic” maga group who can’t even distinguish between a real inconvenience vs a small wait a pharmacy.
Good stuff Mitch. As noted, I think using "psychosis" confuses more than helps because it confuses & dilutes narcissist psychology with a primary symptom of other completely different issues more precisely associated with psychosis.
i.e. I was a little triggered when you said, "Somehow a pathological narcissist is able to impose a psychosis upon his followers." You're not wrong because they certainly do that in way, but to my mind, someone groomed with narcissism who has not healed & retrained their mind has a sort of built in compulsive psychosis any more dominant narcissist can tap into.
Interestingly, I was doing a little research last night re: a Florida related piece. The Villages and other childish Villagesesque narcissist behavior came up, so felt right there with you as you described watching the toddler having a selfish, attention-seeking, narcissistic b*tch session.
In my education psychosis is used clinically, as you have described , spotlighting a break from reality. Schizophrenia is the clsssic example used: hearing and listening to voices to cause harm; hallucinations that are an alternate reality. And yet I understand when it’s used as a reference to a group of people who ignore the “reality”. The Capitol police really were attacked. The legislators and their staff were in danger. It’s all documented and viewed innumerable times. Somehow a pathologic narcissist is able to impose a psychosis upon his followers, which is what I think Bandy X is referring to and what Sam Ray is alluding towards. I dislike these followers but I also feel very sorry for them as I’m sure most of their daily lives are less than constructive. Today, while I was waiting on line for 3 vaccine shots, a man behind couldn’t help himself from saying several times , “ this is bullshit” or “can you believe this” bec the line had 4 people. He was not dressed in a suit as if he left a demanding job to get a Rx but rather in shorts and a t-shirt and was readily a member of the sub population of borderline morbidly obese. This was more re than entitlement. It was an opportunity, for him, to express anger and exhibit poor restraint in his frustration to wait 10 min ( which is what it was as I had to wait off to side for another 10 min as my vaccines were readied). He was the face of narcissism and at the same time a member of the “psychotic” maga group who can’t even distinguish between a real inconvenience vs a small wait a pharmacy.
Good stuff Mitch. As noted, I think using "psychosis" confuses more than helps because it confuses & dilutes narcissist psychology with a primary symptom of other completely different issues more precisely associated with psychosis.
i.e. I was a little triggered when you said, "Somehow a pathological narcissist is able to impose a psychosis upon his followers." You're not wrong because they certainly do that in way, but to my mind, someone groomed with narcissism who has not healed & retrained their mind has a sort of built in compulsive psychosis any more dominant narcissist can tap into.
Interestingly, I was doing a little research last night re: a Florida related piece. The Villages and other childish Villagesesque narcissist behavior came up, so felt right there with you as you described watching the toddler having a selfish, attention-seeking, narcissistic b*tch session.
✨WOW !!!
This is a fascinating, thorough and true MUST READ !!
Thank you, Sam !!! ✨